Jeff Gaul - Niskayuna Wingnut
Jeff Gaul has been active in the Ron Paul movement, and he's been a big problem here in the Albany area. This post discusses Jeff Gaul and his odd behavior. At the bottom is an embed of an interview with him, for those who want to see and hear him. Form your own opinion.
I think he means well, but there are times when Jeff seems to just go crazy. This is one of the challenges in modern politics. Yes, you can use the web to reach more people, but it also gives the loonies the ability to attack you in so many places.
For some reason Jeff decided to attack our local candidate for Congress. Just recently he sent the following to a Ron Paul group in Long Island:
[The candidate] is a liar and a thief, for starters. Secondly, just listen to him...
He cannot speak nor write. Most importantly, he has admitted, as is true, that he has nothing to offer the ... district and that any support would be best directed to folks like David Gay and John Wallace locally, or others in the country.
...
Jeff Gaul
518/ 382-8282
You can imagine that we would dispute what Jeff Gaul says above. Of course our candidate is not a liar, nor a thief. He certainly can speak and write. I've seen him do both. :-) There are dozens of volunteers working on his campaign who all feel he has plenty to offer the district. And Ron Paul endorsed our candidate, so that's one more vote of confidence.
Our candidate is not opposed to David Gay or John Wallace. Wallace recently attended one of our campaign meetings, and our candidate often says positive things to me about Gay. Most of us are working together to support Ron Paul candidates everywhere.
But Jeff Gaul ... he's off in la la land. Here's an example of his insanity, in some e-mails he sent during our efforts to get Ron Paul on the ballot:
March 23, 2008: What have you been told I accused [our candidate] of stealing? I suggest we stick to the facts and stay away from non-sense, unless you are still not interested in resolving matters appropriately. And by the way, [our candidate] did steal my Schenectady county voter list, as he has failed and refused to return it, as I had anticipated, so that would appropriately be added to the long list of his shortfalls.
March 24 (same thread): that is my point exactly, I am promoting the notion of supporting good candidates, not liars, cheaters, back stabbers, grossly unqualified, bullshit ARTists or those in dire need to feed their ego, or lack thereof.
The best one is from back in December of 2007, after Jeff removed me from what was then the main Albany Meetup for Ron Paul:
Warren:
You and company are the ones that are actually clueless and hope to con and/or mislead, though you are incapable.
You are the one that failed and/or refused to discuss openly!
You, among others, have the audacity, as only one of many examples, to act (try to act) holier than thou.
You have done nothing good for the RP effort, and have done only bad.
Steve has done same good, but a lot of bad.
Ostrowski has done no good and a plenty of bad.
Leonard has done some good and a lot of bad.
The decision to remove the trouble makers (distraction Nazis) has nothing to do with your narrow minded view that you think you have some right to make such determinations, though you do not.
Also, the conversation you and I had is well documented (Jim is a pain in the ass, Tim is a nut, Steve can't articulate, etc.).
Yes, indeed, it is about Ron Paul, and several, like your friend Stevens, have had a difficult time with my resistance to the distractions of your SMALL Libertarian group.
Indeed, YOU ARE WRONG!
I must add that I have no problem you y'all as a group, just with your ill-intentions!
Just to be clear on this, Jim Ostrowski was the leader in the effort to get Ron Paul on the ballot in NY, and to make sure the delegate slate was in order. I assisted Jim in that effort, and we were both at the Board of Elections. We were both paid by the Ron Paul campaign for our work. And Steven Vasquez helped us.
I leave it to you, the faithful reader, to judge for yourself whether Jeff Gaul is someone you would want to rely on. The video embed is below:
I think he means well, but there are times when Jeff seems to just go crazy. This is one of the challenges in modern politics. Yes, you can use the web to reach more people, but it also gives the loonies the ability to attack you in so many places.
For some reason Jeff decided to attack our local candidate for Congress. Just recently he sent the following to a Ron Paul group in Long Island:
[The candidate] is a liar and a thief, for starters. Secondly, just listen to him...
He cannot speak nor write. Most importantly, he has admitted, as is true, that he has nothing to offer the ... district and that any support would be best directed to folks like David Gay and John Wallace locally, or others in the country.
...
Jeff Gaul
518/ 382-8282
You can imagine that we would dispute what Jeff Gaul says above. Of course our candidate is not a liar, nor a thief. He certainly can speak and write. I've seen him do both. :-) There are dozens of volunteers working on his campaign who all feel he has plenty to offer the district. And Ron Paul endorsed our candidate, so that's one more vote of confidence.
Our candidate is not opposed to David Gay or John Wallace. Wallace recently attended one of our campaign meetings, and our candidate often says positive things to me about Gay. Most of us are working together to support Ron Paul candidates everywhere.
But Jeff Gaul ... he's off in la la land. Here's an example of his insanity, in some e-mails he sent during our efforts to get Ron Paul on the ballot:
March 23, 2008: What have you been told I accused [our candidate] of stealing? I suggest we stick to the facts and stay away from non-sense, unless you are still not interested in resolving matters appropriately. And by the way, [our candidate] did steal my Schenectady county voter list, as he has failed and refused to return it, as I had anticipated, so that would appropriately be added to the long list of his shortfalls.
March 24 (same thread): that is my point exactly, I am promoting the notion of supporting good candidates, not liars, cheaters, back stabbers, grossly unqualified, bullshit ARTists or those in dire need to feed their ego, or lack thereof.
The best one is from back in December of 2007, after Jeff removed me from what was then the main Albany Meetup for Ron Paul:
Warren:
You and company are the ones that are actually clueless and hope to con and/or mislead, though you are incapable.
You are the one that failed and/or refused to discuss openly!
You, among others, have the audacity, as only one of many examples, to act (try to act) holier than thou.
You have done nothing good for the RP effort, and have done only bad.
Steve has done same good, but a lot of bad.
Ostrowski has done no good and a plenty of bad.
Leonard has done some good and a lot of bad.
The decision to remove the trouble makers (distraction Nazis) has nothing to do with your narrow minded view that you think you have some right to make such determinations, though you do not.
Also, the conversation you and I had is well documented (Jim is a pain in the ass, Tim is a nut, Steve can't articulate, etc.).
Yes, indeed, it is about Ron Paul, and several, like your friend Stevens, have had a difficult time with my resistance to the distractions of your SMALL Libertarian group.
Indeed, YOU ARE WRONG!
I must add that I have no problem you y'all as a group, just with your ill-intentions!
Just to be clear on this, Jim Ostrowski was the leader in the effort to get Ron Paul on the ballot in NY, and to make sure the delegate slate was in order. I assisted Jim in that effort, and we were both at the Board of Elections. We were both paid by the Ron Paul campaign for our work. And Steven Vasquez helped us.
I leave it to you, the faithful reader, to judge for yourself whether Jeff Gaul is someone you would want to rely on. The video embed is below:
posted by Albany Lawyer at 1:59 PM
9 Comments:
Nice to know my experience was not unique. After I'd withdrawn from the local Ron Paul Meetup group due to general wingnut-ism among a lot of the curmudgeonly older crowd, my younger brother had joined. Due to us obviously sharing the same last name, Jeff was quite convinced we were the same person, and for months wouldn't stop communicating with me as though I were, in fact, my younger brother. When my brother also chose to leave the group due to similar reasons, Jeff, for several days, wouldn't stop IM'g and emailing me, attempting to convince _me_ to come back, that the world was going to end if _we_ didn't fight the evil.
LOL: Wingnut: “a nut with wings that provide a grip for the thumb and finger”. Redlich has shown his lack of intelligence before.
Andrew: As you know, andrew fox removed you, not me; from the RP 340 MeetUp because he felt that you were a distraction, much like the dishonest redlich rants here.
I had communicated with your brother, whom identified himself as such, so there was no confusion there, not that it would have much meaning if there was.
What is puzzling is that your concern is, primarily, that I did not want you to leave, nor did I support andrew fox's ignorant and short-sightedness.
Steven Vasquez has shown his dishonesty in many respects (he even stole my voter list, and he has lied about his successes and he has fueled many of these redlich type childish fires), through he does have a very small following of like-minded people, just like Redlich, supporting Vasquez is a waste. There are some great candidates that also supported Ron Paul that actually have a chance to win, unlike Vasquez.
Also, I will be happy to send the article about crazy Redlich where the Town of Guilderland criticized him for stupidity and similar antics as here. He is a 12 year old in a body intended for a grown-up, as are a few of his pals.
I have a right to warn people about the truth, and, indeed, an obligation, after having devoted a year of my life to the Ron Paul Freedom movement.
Redlich does not have any legal nor moral right to lie and call names as he has done here. Redlich, is, too, a liar, as he has demonstrated here.
However, the positive outcome will be that more people will be informed about Vasquez and may not waste their time or money.
I have to laugh too about Redlich thinking that my stating, as was widely believed at the time, that Ron Paul had a great chance of running agasint Hillary. What’s funny is that Redlich and his little buddy Ostrowski very typically print that they had properly predicted right along, when they predicted something other than what occurred. Even if the race was now between Hillary and Dr. Paul, I would not be sending any messages intended to promote me, as these clowns frequently attempt to do.
I feel sorry for the Town of Guilderland, whom has to put up with little warren for two more years, unless they impeach him.
Warren: this is the exact type of distraction that I needed to eliminate from the Albany Ron Paul MeetUp, which is why you and a few others were removed. Understandably, many people thanked me, including Andrew’s brother!
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I can only say that the comment above, which I'm sure is really from Jeff Gaul, shows all the more his disturbed state.
It's unfortunate that the Ron Paul movement can't hold itself together. You might think that a group of people that is essentially out of power would be able to work together. We all support small government and libertarian ideals. But there must be something about the libertarian mentality that causes dysfunction in working with others. I've seen it in the New York Libertarian Party and in other efforts as well.
All the more sad because the socialists we all oppose tend to work together much better. The end result of our infighting is that the socialists run the show.
Jeff Gaul is a perfect example of the problem.
redlich:
Why don't you post exact examples of how you purportedly concluded that such a writing demonstrats a disturbed state? Or do mean disturbed in the sense that you, vasquez and a few others, have caused anger (you have caused people to be disturbed due to your actions)and due to the distractions perpetuated by you and him and his tiny following?
It does appear, however, that you allege that those that disagree with you must be disturbed.
If you knew, as is well known about vasquez, that someone you did not respect at all was running for office (Congress), are you going to try to fool people into believing that you too would not make the facts known, to at least encourage people to investigate the situation? LOL
Why do you change spelling?
Responding to the latest comment from Jeff Gaul:
The disturbed nature of your comments, here and elsewhere, is apparent to readers. If you really want to analyze this, I suggest you bring the materials with you to a mental health professional. I'm guessing you have some kind of narcissism going on, with a touch of bipolar disorder, but I'm not a professional.
I don't think everyone that disagrees with me is disturbed. Mike McNulty is quite normal, for example.
Vasquez has substantial support, with dozens of volunteers. I have tremendous respect for him considering the personal sacrifices he's made for the Ron Paul movement.
Not sure what you mean about spelling. This blog is powered by Blogger and I don't have the power to edit comments that are submitted.
How about this question: Why do you continue to attack people who say they support Ron Paul instead of focusing on those who openly oppose him? Maybe you're just a plant from the socialists, trying to sow discord within the movement. Hmm.
But now I sound paranoid. :-)
"but I'm not a professional."- indeed, redlich, you are not a professional.
You failed to answer the question: do you really think that you are fooling people?
Do you think I have a problem because I feel compelled to let people know the truth after you post lies on your website? You think that is the sickness shown here as a result of your antics?
Do you think that your spending time with your illegal and slanderosus posts is productive?
Tell us all redlich: if you knew of a very dishonest person that you disliked was running for a congressional seat, would you keep it quiet just because you had tried to work with them in a movement as important as the Ron Paul movement- a movement that he caused and suppported distractions too?
Therein lies what most people want to know. With respect to vasquez, who is willing to hurt the cause in an effort to feed his ego, I am merely the messenger. Indeed, I worked right beside him, while having no respect for him, not to to contribute to his ego-feeding needs, but for the cause. If you did a darn positive thing for the cause, I would be saying the same thing about you, but all you can claim is that you created distractions.
What do you think you are proving here?
You know that I will continue to make vasquez's shortcomings known, just as you will continue to waste your time on a candidate that is now substantially hurting the cause.
I do not agree with your mentality that, bad or good, if they worked in the Ron Paul movement, they must be suppported. That, too, is short-sighted!
Your obvious goal here is to try to claim that things about me in order to distract people from looking at vasquez.
As a lawyer (even if you bought a degree) you have an obligation to know where the legal line is.
I am obligated to inform people about the lies, but regret that I must.
All I have said is factual, so it is not slander. I crossed no line, I have nothing to fear in that regard.
Why don't you do everyone a favor and find some other game to play and remove this entire non-sensical blog?
Ah, the key language in the mind of Jeff Gaul:
if you knew of a very dishonest person that you disliked was running for a congressional seat
You see, it's not about the candidate. It's about who Jeff Gaul dislikes.
Really, if you're looking for dishonest people in politics, why would you pick on a challenger who you think has no chance of winning? It's because you dislike him, not because he is some threat to society.
I am certainly not removing this blog post. The point was to allow anyone who hears your madness to be able to find out the truth about you. You have assisted in this effort with your comments.
When you stop slandering others, I'll consider taking this down.
For now, I grow weary of this conversation. Go argue with someone else.
Albany Lawyer - I just found your blog this afternoon after performing various searches on where to eat in Albany. (I do live here, we just enjoy trying new places.) I'm so happy I've found it.
I can tell you what this guy's problem is. He uses way too many commas. You can't get through a sentence without hiccuping six times. I'm a writer, albeit a technical one, and the first thing I look for when interviewing a job candidate is how often they use commas in their work samples. If they use too many they are out the door.
I don't care about Ron Paul one way or the other (sorry), however if I were still in the decision making process, this guy would have turned me off immediately.
Keep up with the restaurant reviews and I'll check back often.
Thanks! HFaz
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